Thursday, March 10, 2016

Debate Winner: Trump Or Cruz

Jorge Ramos of Univision proved himself a dogged interrogator at the Democratic presidential debate in Miami Wednesday night. In so doing, he increased the possibility of making a Donald Trump- or Ted Cruz - presidency a reality.

It was like pulling teeth, but in the end Ramos pulled off a major coup by getting the answer he was seeking.  After nine+ debates, former Secretary of State Clinton finally found something with which she disagrees with President Obama, the deportation of individuals who enter the country illegally.

The frontrunner's promise to extend due process to children threatened with deportation was insufficient to Ramos, and eventually to Clinton herself. She remarked

But if you are asking about everyone who is already here, undocumented immigrants, the 11-12 million who are living here, my priorities are to deport violent criminals, terrorists, and anyone who threatens our safety. So I do not have the same policy as the current administration does. I think it's important that we move to our comprehensive immigration reform, but at the same time, stop the raids, stop the round-ups, stop the deporting of people who are living here doing their lives, doing their jobs, and that's my priority.

Mrs. Clinton wants to "stop the raids, stop the round-ups."  Employers who hire illegal immigrants- presumably at the expense of  legal residents among whites, blacks,  hispanics or Asian-Americans- have the green light from her.

But that wasn't good enough, nor was it that a President Clinton would extend due process to children threatened with deportation.  Ramos asked "But again, yes or no, can you promise tonight that you won't deport children, children who are already here?" to which Clinton vowed "I will not deport children. I would not deport children."

Still not enough, as Clinton was asked "And that you won't deport immigrants who don't have a criminal record?"

Clinton initially seemed to acquiesce, responding "That's what I'm telling you." However, when she rambled on about asylum, the persistent Ramos wouldn't let go, leading to this exchange:

RAMOS: So you will stop those deportations.

CLINTON: I would stop...

RAMOS: The deportations for children...


RAMOS: ... and those who don't have a criminal record.

CLINTON: Of the people, the undocumented people living in our country, I do not want to see them deported. I want to see them on a path to citizenship. That is exactly what I will do.

Oh, my.   Ramos then went on to extract the same concession from Sanders who, not to be found lacking in the pandering department, stated "I can make that promise."

Jorge Ramos did his job, and did it extraordinarily well. He will not have to live with the ramifications of these statements; only Sanders or more likely Clinton, will. And in a general election against either Donald Trump or Ted Cruz, the consequences would be enormous.

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